Discussion:
Virgin girls may want to "break themselves in"
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e***@rock.com
2005-09-13 21:02:48 UTC
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Girls should also be careful not to masturbate with anything biological
such as a chicken bone which could have bacteria, or leave behind
biodegradable products which could infect the vagina. Virgin girls,
ages 14 and up may wish to buy a vibrator or a dildo so that they can
"break themselves in" gently on their own. Then their first sexual
experience will not be painful. Also, nothing stuck in the anus should
ever be stuck in the vagina without first washing it off. The Jack
Rabbit vibrator can be bought online for $24 at the following website:
http://www.ashleysextoys.com/store/displayreviews.asp?PRODUCT_ID=gwse0610_00
It is reportedly the best vibrator on the planet.

It's also probably a good idea to give boys ages 14 and up access to
porno, and perhaps the fleshlight, http://www.fleshlight.com. Teenagers
of both sexes should be given plenty of condoms, and teenage girls
should have access to birth control.

There are only 4 main methods of pregnancy prevention:

1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge

At least TWO of these methods should be used by all teenagers (and
perhaps everybody) who have sex, of which one should preferably be
condoms for people who are not in a long-term monogamous relationship.

Human beings become sexual by age 14. People under 18 should only have
sex with those who are within 3 years of age of them. If teenagers
aren't having sex, their only alternative is to masturbate, and we have
seen that sex is healthier. A caveat would be positive, happy,
healthy, and hopefully loving sex. It is highly unrealistic to expect
teenagers or anyone to go without sex for four years. Thus all
teenagers should have double or queen size beds so their girlfriends or
boyfriends can sleep over. As an aside, they should also be given
freedoms such as cars and private entrances which will allow them to
learn to be like adults so they will be ready for the real world. Of
course, some troublemakers may require more adult supervision.....
Drugs, bad grades in school, vandalism, or anything illegal.

Also, remember to wash several times before sex! Swishing with
mouthwash or hard alcohol before kissing may help as well.

Sex is merely french kissing, coitus, and having the skin of your body
against one another. So uhm...... I just wanted to make that point.
m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-13 22:28:56 UTC
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And this relates to any newsgroups on this list
whatsoever how?
Post by e***@rock.com
If teenagers
aren't having sex, their only alternative is to masturbate, and we have
seen that sex is healthier.
How is sex healthier than masturbation?
Secret Squirrel
2005-09-14 17:02:01 UTC
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And this relates to any newsgroups on this list
whatsoever how?
Usenet is alt.talk.talk.talk to some.
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Post by e***@rock.com
If teenagers
aren't having sex, their only alternative is to
masturbate, and we have seen that sex is healthier.
How is sex healthier than masturbation?
Beats me. Add to that these rabbits pulled from the
hat:

"Human beings become sexual by age 14." (Really??
I was masturbating WAY before then).

And this, of course.

"People under 18 should only have sex with those who are
within 3 years of age of them." (Why so?)

Secret Squirrel
m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-14 17:28:31 UTC
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And this relates to any newsgroups on this list
whatsoever how?
Usenet is alt.talk.talk.talk to some.
I've seen shitty goth poetry on alt.native
before. And the whole time, I was wondering
if there were any goth newsgroups he could
share it on.
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Post by m***@yahoo.com
How is sex healthier than masturbation?
Beats me. Add to that these rabbits pulled from the
"Human beings become sexual by age 14." (Really??
I was masturbating WAY before then).
Yeah, I mean, I lost my virginity at 14, but I
was masturbating as far back as I can remember.
Post by Secret Squirrel
And this, of course.
"People under 18 should only have sex with those who are
within 3 years of age of them." (Why so?)
I think the issue there is probably power
games. I mean, remember, when you're a kid,
the adults you know are mostly teachers,
relatives, doctors, coaches, etc.
Secret Squirrel
2005-09-15 19:28:12 UTC
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Beats me. Add to that these rabbits pulled from the
"Human beings become sexual by age 14." (Really??
I was masturbating WAY before then).
Yeah, I mean, I lost my virginity at 14, but I
was masturbating as far back as I can remember.
Same here. Though you can remember further back than I. ;-)
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And this, of course.
"People under 18 should only have sex with those who are
within 3 years of age of them." (Why so?)
I think the issue there is probably power
games. I mean, remember, when you're a kid,
the adults you know are mostly teachers,
relatives, doctors, coaches, etc.
Yeah--I agree--but since those very adults you mention
employ arbitrary power in so many other ways, it's odd
that it's only where sex is involved--maybe the only
instance where the youngster might have truly consented to
the relationship--that we go all zonkers over that there
might be "abuse of power". We tolerate, even encourage said
abuse of power everywhere else.

Even granting that--why the standard of 3 years? Why not
4? 2? 1.5? 5? pi? (hey it would improve everyone's math!).
This is the very problem with AOC laws, no matter how you
draw the line you don't either prevent abusive relationships
and you persecute good ones.

Secret Squirrel
Stan de SD
2005-09-20 05:47:12 UTC
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1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES work...
Jafo
2005-09-20 15:40:19 UTC
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1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES work...
Like it or not, it's the only method that comes with a guarantee...

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Jafo
m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-20 20:06:47 UTC
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1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES work...
Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.

Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.

BTW, your religion in particular tells you you can still
get pregnant when you abstain.
Jafo
2005-09-20 21:41:48 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer

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Jafo
a***@hotmail.com
2005-09-20 22:07:16 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
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Jafo
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't very funny.
Jafo
2005-09-20 22:45:34 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.

Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.

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Jafo
a***@hotmail.com
2005-09-20 22:51:57 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
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Jafo
Nonsense.

A partisan slap at a President Bolick disliked. The real 'third
solution' is a sex drenched, celibrity obsessed media which cannot be
counted on to reliably deliver anything beyond titilation. Bolick's
observation was nothing if not emotional.
Stan de SD
2005-09-23 15:07:19 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
--
Jafo
Nonsense.
A partisan slap at a President Bolick disliked.
And how is that different from anything the Lefty Liberal fruitcakes have
done since January 2001?
m***@astound.net
2005-09-20 22:52:24 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Jafo
2005-09-20 23:58:37 UTC
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Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better world
It takes more than hope and good feelings, and trying the same old
shit that's never worked before means it ain't gonna work any better
now.

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Jafo
a***@hotmail.com
2005-09-21 01:10:42 UTC
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Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better world
It takes more than hope and good feelings, and trying the same old
shit that's never worked before means it ain't gonna work any better
now.
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Jafo
Actually a lot of 'the same old shit' has worked Jafo.

The air and water are cleaner. The workplace is safer. Elderly are more
secure. There is a large black middle class. Things for many have
improved. It's a lengthy list of 'same old shit' which has worked.

But, as we see in New Orleans, there is much yet to do.
Stan de SD
2005-09-23 15:09:49 UTC
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Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better world
It takes more than hope and good feelings, and trying the same old
shit that's never worked before means it ain't gonna work any better
now.
--
Jafo
Actually a lot of 'the same old shit' has worked Jafo.
The air and water are cleaner. The workplace is safer. Elderly are more
secure. There is a large black middle class.
God bless Reagan's tax cuts that stimulated the economy in the 1980's,
creating more opportunities for black Americans...
m***@astound.net
2005-09-21 01:54:10 UTC
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Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better world
It takes more than hope and good feelings, and trying the same old
shit that's never worked before means it ain't gonna work any better
now.
Not what I meant, of course. Not to mention that it takes more
than a longing for things that never well to make anything
better now.
Stan de SD
2005-09-23 15:08:30 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Is that why liberals fight welfare reform, school choice, free markets, and
options to social security?
m***@astound.net
2005-09-23 16:13:44 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Is that why liberals fight welfare reform, school choice, free markets, and
options to social security?
What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past. I
want a better future. Your opinion of what is good for the country, not
to mention of what liberals believe does not define what the opinions
of
others are, nor of what reality is.
Stan de SD
2005-09-25 21:30:50 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Is that why liberals fight welfare reform, school choice, free markets, and
options to social security?
What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for being an
idiot...
h***@mac.com
2005-09-25 23:20:22 UTC
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What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for being an
idiot...


Stain, please, don't be embarrassed... like, you'd know what the word
meant.

Even in America Under W, wishing for the impossible isn't illegal. Not
yet, anyway. They are working on it, but it ain't always easy forcing
through fascist riders tacked onto Public Safety Bills.

When that day comes you'll finally be in good company, along with
hundreds of relatively normal defendants on trial for the very same
offense which has kept you so terribly guilt-ridden all these years.
Namely, wishing those promiscuous beasts who unleashed Stain de STD on
an unsuspecting innocent planet had remained as chaste as W intended
instead of yielding to carnal impurity in such sinful measure, and with
such desperately tragic outcome. With their mutant genes, there's no
way they could've dreamed you'd make anything of yourself, Stain, and
in that regard those lustful parents of yours were dead right.
However, just because you'll never be viable human tissue, Stain,
doesn't make their crime against nature entirely your fault.

It was wrong of them to do what they did. But now, Stain, you're
history - not just in the obvious way - in a different sense, a part of
history. Admit it, you get a twinge of pride mixed in with the
stabbing headaches whenever you show young fertile people that sign of
your immortality erected at the place of your conception in bright
latex paint for all to see, read and weep silently over: "Danger ! Do
Not Copulate on or near the Cupolae. By Order, San Onofre Nuclear
Hazard Management".

As you''ve said yourself, it all comes down to location, location,
location . . .

Secondly, though like a total idiot you always seem bent (on getting
everyone else to, that is) you have never actually apologized for
being, Stain. You have yet to atone, and - not to nag or anything,
but - each day brings you a step closer to the time for you to meet
your maker. In hell. So, get on with it, nitwit.

.
.
.
m***@astound.net
2005-09-26 05:01:33 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Is that why liberals fight welfare reform, school choice, free markets,
and
Post by m***@astound.net
Post by Stan de SD
options to social security?
What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for being an
idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
Stan de SD
2005-09-26 05:19:37 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Is that why liberals fight welfare reform, school choice, free markets,
and
Post by m***@astound.net
Post by Stan de SD
options to social security?
What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for being an
idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, you can't provide any proof to back up your claims,
asshole...
m***@astound.net
2005-09-26 14:55:33 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Is that why liberals fight welfare reform, school choice, free
markets,
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and
Post by m***@astound.net
Post by Stan de SD
options to social security?
What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for being
an
Post by m***@astound.net
Post by Stan de SD
idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, you can't provide any proof to back up your claims,
asshole...
Sorry Stan. You're not dumb enough to flat come out and say it. But it
stands out in all your posts.
Stan de SD
2005-09-27 07:57:45 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether children
should be taught about sex by their parents or by the schools,
when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Is that why liberals fight welfare reform, school choice, free
markets,
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and
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Post by Stan de SD
options to social security?
What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for being
an
Post by m***@astound.net
Post by Stan de SD
idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, you can't provide any proof to back up your claims,
asshole...
Sorry Stan. You're not dumb enough to flat come out and say it. But it
stands out in all your posts.
It's clear that you can't back up your own assertion, so you are flailing.
Loser.
m***@astound.net
2005-09-27 15:28:17 UTC
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Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
"Just a few months ago, we were arguing about whether
children
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should be taught about sex by their parents or by the
schools,
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when our innovative President found a third solution."
-Clint Bolick, Constitutional lawyer
A lawyer and a libertarian. Explains why Clint Bolick isn't
very funny.
But he's accurate.
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Closer to say that liberals are based on hope for a better
world and conservatives on longing for a non-existant past.
Is that why liberals fight welfare reform, school choice, free
markets,
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and
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options to social security?
What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant
past.
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I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for
being
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an
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idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, you can't provide any proof to back up your claims,
asshole...
Sorry Stan. You're not dumb enough to flat come out and say it. But it
stands out in all your posts.
It's clear that you can't back up your own assertion, so you are flailing.
Loser.
It's always a perception thing Stan. Like I said, you aren't dumb
enough to tie yourself down. But you show what you believe in your
posts.
Jafo
2005-09-26 13:33:13 UTC
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What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for being
an idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, he can't do it.

What a surprise. :)

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m***@astound.net
2005-09-26 14:57:36 UTC
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What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize for being
an idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, he can't do it.
What a surprise. :)
No surprise. Stan isn't that dumb but then it stands out in his
posts. I am amused by you and Stan who think that just because
you didn't state something overtly it isn't so. But then fanatics
often seem to feel that way.
Jafo
2005-09-26 15:19:43 UTC
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What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize
for being an idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, he can't do it.
What a surprise. :)
No surprise. Stan isn't that dumb but then it stands out in his
posts. I am amused by you and Stan who think that just because
you didn't state something overtly it isn't so. But then fanatics
often seem to feel that way.
Typical radlib mentality which, BTW, certainly "stands out in all
your posts"; if what your agenda requires doesn't happen to be found
in the words in front of you, just make them up.

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Stan de SD
2005-09-27 08:00:02 UTC
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What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize
for being an idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, he can't do it.
What a surprise. :)
No surprise. Stan isn't that dumb but then it stands out in his
posts. I am amused by you and Stan who think that just because
you didn't state something overtly it isn't so. But then fanatics
often seem to feel that way.
Typical radlib mentality which, BTW, certainly "stands out in all
your posts"; if what your agenda requires doesn't happen to be found
in the words in front of you, just make them up.
Which is the best that Mac and his pathetic ilk can do - they can't actually
win a discussion based on facts and logic, so they project an assumed
position on others. Not that far removed from the child playing board games
who expects his opponent to move a certain way, and gets mad when he
doesn't...
m***@astound.net
2005-09-27 15:31:23 UTC
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What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize
for being an idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, he can't do it.
What a surprise. :)
No surprise. Stan isn't that dumb but then it stands out in his
posts. I am amused by you and Stan who think that just because
you didn't state something overtly it isn't so. But then fanatics
often seem to feel that way.
Typical radlib mentality which, BTW, certainly "stands out in all
your posts"; if what your agenda requires doesn't happen to be found
in the words in front of you, just make them up.
Which is the best that Mac and his pathetic ilk can do - they can't actually
win a discussion based on facts and logic, so they project an assumed
position on others. Not that far removed from the child playing board games
who expects his opponent to move a certain way, and gets mad when he
doesn't...
Coming from you Stan, who've never used facts in any sort of logical
way on Usenet in your life, that's pretty funny. Now go back to your
toys and continue to post your simplistic little homilies about the
black and white world you live in. Reality is more interesting but I
don't think you'd like it.
m***@astound.net
2005-09-27 15:29:25 UTC
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What I said stands, Stan. You want a return to a non-existant past.
I do? Show explicitly where I have stated that, or apologize
for being an idiot...
No need to Stan, it stands out in all your posts.
In other words, he can't do it.
What a surprise. :)
No surprise. Stan isn't that dumb but then it stands out in his
posts. I am amused by you and Stan who think that just because
you didn't state something overtly it isn't so. But then fanatics
often seem to feel that way.
Typical radlib mentality which, BTW, certainly "stands out in all
your posts"; if what your agenda requires doesn't happen to be found
in the words in front of you, just make them up.
If I were a radlib (or a far right wing-nut) then you might be
right. I'm neither, however, so you aren't.
Jafo
2005-09-27 15:50:13 UTC
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No surprise. Stan isn't that dumb but then it stands out in his
posts. I am amused by you and Stan who think that just because
you didn't state something overtly it isn't so. But then fanatics
often seem to feel that way.
Typical radlib mentality which, BTW, certainly "stands out in all
your posts"; if what your agenda requires doesn't happen to be found
in the words in front of you, just make them up.
If I were a radlib (or a far right wing-nut) then you might be
right. I'm neither, however, so you aren't.
Well geez, Mac, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'm
inclined to call it a duck. YMMV.

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m***@astound.net
2005-09-27 20:15:38 UTC
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No surprise. Stan isn't that dumb but then it stands out in his
posts. I am amused by you and Stan who think that just because
you didn't state something overtly it isn't so. But then fanatics
often seem to feel that way.
Typical radlib mentality which, BTW, certainly "stands out in all
your posts"; if what your agenda requires doesn't happen to be found
in the words in front of you, just make them up.
If I were a radlib (or a far right wing-nut) then you might be
right. I'm neither, however, so you aren't.
Well geez, Mac, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'm
inclined to call it a duck. YMMV.
In this case it's a function of your selective vision, not my reality.
But if it pleases you to think so, please feel free to do so. I
doubt you would fully qualify to my view of your duckyness either
but baring further information I'll hold to it.
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Jafo
h***@mac.com
2005-09-27 18:10:20 UTC
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Nobody expects the manic Stainquisition.

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DCI
2005-09-27 18:17:30 UTC
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Nobody expects the manic Stainquisition.
You're on a roll. What's your point in the larger scheme of things?

DCI
h***@mac.com
2005-09-27 18:49:26 UTC
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Nobody expects the manic Stainquisition.
You're on a roll. What's your point in the larger scheme of things?
You're a bloody radlib, aren't you? No point in denying it. Jafo
was right.

Now, he's Extreme Right.

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m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-21 18:17:51 UTC
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Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Don't you have that reversed? The left aren't the ones
comparing the inheritance tax to the Holocaust. Nor are
the left the ones advocating a national sales tax
because that way "you only pay what you want to". (Of
course, a national sales tax would RUIN the economy,
and it naturally means the working class would spend a
greater percentage of their income on taxes than the
upper class, but so goes.)

The left also aren't the ones who won't sell the Pill
because it supposedly causes abortions. The Pill,
which prevents ovulation.
Asmodeus
2005-09-21 19:07:05 UTC
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Don't you have that reversed? The left aren't the ones
comparing the inheritance tax to the Holocaust. Nor are
I see you're on the LSD again.
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the left the ones advocating a national sales tax
because that way "you only pay what you want to". (Of
course, a national sales tax would RUIN the economy
It wouldn't ruin the economy--just all your socialist welfare
programs. That's the best thing about it.

Now, check into a rehab center.
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m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-21 22:15:56 UTC
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Don't you have that reversed? The left aren't the ones
comparing the inheritance tax to the Holocaust. Nor are
I see you're on the LSD again.
Grover Norquist compared the inheritance tax to the
Holocaust on CNN. "I mean, that's the morality of the
Holocaust. 'Well, it's only a small percentage,' you
know. 'I mean, it's not you, it's somebody else.'"
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the left the ones advocating a national sales tax
because that way "you only pay what you want to". (Of
course, a national sales tax would RUIN the economy
It wouldn't ruin the economy--just all your socialist welfare
programs. That's the best thing about it.
Actually, it would discourage spending. Anyone familiar
with elementary economics knows that.

It's funny, encouraging spending by cutting upper-class
income taxes was a former right-wing attempt to "curb
the deficit" which only plunged us into greater debt
because in reality, the working class drive the
economy.

BTW, the biggest welfare recipients are Halliburton,
Lockheed-Martin, Samsung (Damn foreigners.), etc.
Post by Asmodeus
Now, check into a rehab center.
I'm sober. But anyone in Ohio who voted for Bush
should check in for their elaborate suicide
attempts.
Asmodeus
2005-09-21 22:50:18 UTC
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I'm sober
Right. And I'm a Democrat.
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2005-09-21 22:57:45 UTC
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I'm sober
Right. And I'm a Democrat.
Beg pardon? Are you saying that the Norquist quote is
inaccurate? How?


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Stan de SD
2005-09-23 15:11:30 UTC
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Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Don't you have that reversed? The left aren't the ones
comparing the inheritance tax to the Holocaust.
No, they are busy accusing Bush of deliberately killing black people in New
Orleans and being worse than Saddam. You want more examples of the inanities
of your political fellow travelers? I would be happy to supply them...
m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-23 20:39:17 UTC
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Post by Jafo
Well, I guess that's the difference between liberals and
conservatives. The former are based primarily upon emotion
and the latter upon reason.
Don't you have that reversed? The left aren't the ones
comparing the inheritance tax to the Holocaust.
No, they are busy accusing Bush of deliberately killing black people in New
Orleans and being worse than Saddam. You want more examples of the inanities
of your political fellow travelers? I would be happy to supply them...
And I can find more from the right. I can find
Karl Rove committing treason, for one.
Jafo
2005-09-24 00:48:34 UTC
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And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove committing
treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.

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m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-24 02:47:02 UTC
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And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove committing
treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.
Two words: Valerie Plame.
Jafo
2005-09-24 13:32:04 UTC
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And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove committing
treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.
Two words: Valerie Plame.
According to the 50 U.S.C. § 426(4) definition of “covert agent” to
mean one "who is serving outside the United States or has within the
last five years served outside the United States", there doesn't seem
to be any evidence that she was a covert agent at the time the article
was published.

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a***@hotmail.com
2005-09-24 14:50:45 UTC
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Post by Jafo
And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove committing
treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.
Two words: Valerie Plame.
According to the 50 U.S.C. § 426(4) definition of "covert agent" to
mean one "who is serving outside the United States or has within the
last five years served outside the United States", there doesn't seem
to be any evidence that she was a covert agent at the time the article
was published.
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We'll just have to wait for Mr. Fitzgerald's take on that and other
questions won't we?
Jafo
2005-09-24 15:12:27 UTC
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Post by Jafo
And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove
committing treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.
Two words: Valerie Plame.
According to the 50 U.S.C. § 426(4) definition of "covert agent" to
mean one "who is serving outside the United States or has within
the last five years served outside the United States", there
doesn't seem to be any evidence that she was a covert agent at the
time the article was published.
We'll just have to wait for Mr. Fitzgerald's take on that and other
questions won't we?
Tell it to man_in_black529.

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m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-24 17:40:07 UTC
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Two words: Valerie Plame.
According to the 50 U.S.C. § 426(4) definition of "covert agent" to
mean one "who is serving outside the United States or has within the
last five years served outside the United States", there doesn't seem
to be any evidence that she was a covert agent at the time the article
was published.
Either way he broke the law.

Now, we can always talk about Bush's support for
the Taliban.
Jafo
2005-09-24 20:09:46 UTC
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Two words: Valerie Plame.
According to the 50 U.S.C. § 426(4) definition of "covert agent" to
mean one "who is serving outside the United States or has within the
last five years served outside the United States", there doesn't seem
to be any evidence that she was a covert agent at the time the article
was published.
Either way he broke the law.
I didn't realize that when you called yourself man_in_black529, you
meant that you wear a black robe and will in fact be the presiding
judge in a case that hasn't even been filed yet. So here's a hint:
if you want to try the case, don't let anybody know that you've
already arrived at a verdict.
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Now, we can always talk about Bush's support for the Taliban.
Sure, you can always change the subject when you're getting your ass
kicked, can't you?

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a***@hotmail.com
2005-09-24 22:11:08 UTC
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Two words: Valerie Plame.
According to the 50 U.S.C. § 426(4) definition of "covert agent" to
mean one "who is serving outside the United States or has within the
last five years served outside the United States", there doesn't seem
to be any evidence that she was a covert agent at the time the article
was published.
Either way he broke the law.
I didn't realize that when you called yourself man_in_black529, you
meant that you wear a black robe and will in fact be the presiding
if you want to try the case, don't let anybody know that you've
already arrived at a verdict.
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Now, we can always talk about Bush's support for the Taliban.
Sure, you can always change the subject when you're getting your ass
kicked, can't you?
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Changing the subject is one way. Jafo prefers to just drop out of
threads when his behind is booted.
m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-25 17:36:51 UTC
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Now, we can always talk about Bush's support for the Taliban.
Sure, you can always change the subject when you're getting your ass
kicked, can't you?
Support for the Taliban and Al Qaida is the definition
of treason under article III, section 3.
Asmodeus
2005-09-25 22:14:33 UTC
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Support for the Taliban and Al Qaida
Wrong on both counts, bozo, though it applies to ANSWER, Not
In My Name, and Cindy Shitcan and her hippies.
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2005-09-25 22:13:44 UTC
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I didn't realize that when you called yourself man_in_black529, you
meant that you wear a black robe and will in fact be the presiding
judge in a case that hasn't even been filed yet
Actually, I think he thinks he hunts space aliens.
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2005-09-25 22:13:08 UTC
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Either way he broke the law.
Oops, wrong.
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Now, we can always talk about Bush's support for
the Taliban
And a leftist fantasy. Thanks for playing. And get a different
drug dealer.
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2005-09-26 07:02:33 UTC
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Either way he broke the law.
Oops, wrong.
Revealing a CIA agent's name is breaking the law.
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Post by m***@yahoo.com
Now, we can always talk about Bush's support for
the Taliban
And a leftist fantasy. Thanks for playing. And get a different
drug dealer.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K3CE23CDB

Thanks for playing, but no cigar today. You
should quit anyway.
Jafo
2005-09-26 13:35:08 UTC
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Revealing a CIA agent's name is breaking the law.
Cite?

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Asmodeus
2005-09-26 16:20:22 UTC
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Revealing a CIA agent's name is breaking the law.
Bullshit.
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http://makeashorterlink.com/?K3CE23CDB
More bullshit. Not one penny of US money was given to the
Taliban. Try real sources instead of feminist horseshit.

Speaking of feminists, so how come we haven't hear all you
liberals whining about female circumcision since we invaded
Iraq, and every time it's come up, you liberals are now
going on about cultural diversity.

Hypocrites.
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m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-26 17:37:07 UTC
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Revealing a CIA agent's name is breaking the law.
Bullshit.
You didn't know knowingly leaking a CIA agent's name
was against the law? What do you think? Gee, I wonder
how the CIA's going to do its covert operations.
Post by Asmodeus
Post by m***@yahoo.com
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K3CE23CDB
More bullshit. Not one penny of US money was given to the
Taliban. Try real sources instead of feminist horseshit.
Angry that rape's illegal? Or that sleeping with ten-
year-olds is?

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3071809/
Post by Asmodeus
Speaking of feminists, so how come we haven't hear all you
liberals whining about female circumcision since we invaded
Iraq, and every time it's come up, you liberals are now
going on about cultural diversity.
Because female circumcision has nothing to do with Iraq.
That's more something in Sudan. Speaking of Sudan . . .

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1473788,00.html

We can also talk about the Saudi royals and their support
for Al Qaida. And Bush's support for Saudi royals.
Asmodeus
2005-09-26 18:25:56 UTC
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You didn't know knowingly leaking a CIA agent's name
was against the law?
It's not, bozo. Do some research.
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Angry that rape's illegal? Or that sleeping with ten-
year-olds is?
Look up "straw man" then get back to us.
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Because female circumcision has nothing to do with Iraq.
Oh, is that why you leftists defend it now, like you do
beating and torturing gays?

You fucking hypocrites. You have no principles at all.
Post by m***@yahoo.com
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1473788,00.html
A stalinist rag. Boy, I'm sure going to take garbage from
those scubags seriously.
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2005-09-26 18:58:29 UTC
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1473788,00.html
A stalinist rag. Boy, I'm sure going to take garbage from
those scubags seriously.
Isn't that where Peter Arnett is working now?

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Asmodeus
2005-09-26 19:03:13 UTC
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Isn't that where Peter Arnett is working now?
He should be cleaning toilets.
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2005-09-26 21:04:50 UTC
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A stalinist rag. Boy, I'm sure going to take garbage from
those scubags seriously.
Isn't that where Peter Arnett is working now?
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You lackeys seem to classify Freedom of Speech as a small price - nay,
a gratuity - to pay for maintaining the white-collar Death Star
generals at General Electric in the style to which they have been
accustomed. So here's what you have to answer for.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/083105Frank/083105frank.html

Really, Jafo, what do you want to be when you grow up : another Bill
O'Reilly, Chickenhawk Supreme, Suppressor of Truth - even when it's
staring you in the face ?

This war is about profit. Obscene and indecent profit. To its makers
and supporters, nothing else matters.

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Asmodeus
2005-09-26 21:15:24 UTC
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You lackeys seem to classify Freedom of Speech
Freedom of speech isn't relevant.
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2005-09-26 21:21:51 UTC
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Freedom of speech isn't relevant.
In so few words, you've told everyone all they need to know about you.

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Branson Hunter
2005-09-27 01:54:59 UTC
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Post by Asmodeus
A stalinist rag. Boy, I'm sure going to take garbage from
those scubags seriously.
Isn't that where Peter Arnett is working now?
Jafo
You lackeys seem to classify Freedom of Speech as a small price - nay,
a gratuity - to pay for maintaining the white-collar Death Star
generals at General Electric in the style to which they have been
accustomed. So here's what you have to answer for.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/083105Frank/083105frank.html
Really, Jafo, what do you want to be when you grow up : another Bill
O'Reilly, Chickenhawk Supreme, Suppressor of Truth - even when it's
staring you in the face ?
This war is about profit. Obscene and indecent profit. To its makers
and supporters, nothing else matters.
Why would Jafonini care about that, or all the spent lives?
He's shown contempt for the Constitution and the democratic
process. Jafo's political philosophy -- based upon much of what
he has posted -- including posts in Google archive -- leans more
towards fascist than any other political theory.

Branson
"No other Democrats will ever be elected in California, and they'll
have to flee for their lives."

-- Jafo, Thursday, June 16, 2005
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Jafo
2005-09-27 02:16:57 UTC
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Post by Branson Hunter
Post by h***@mac.com
Really, Jafo, what do you want to be when you grow up : another Bill
O'Reilly, Chickenhawk Supreme, Suppressor of Truth - even when it's
staring you in the face ?
This war is about profit. Obscene and indecent profit. To its
makers and supporters, nothing else matters.
Why would Jafonini care about that, or all the spent lives?
He's shown contempt for the Constitution and the democratic
process.
As much as you do when you whine about losing elections? :)
Post by Branson Hunter
Jafo's political philosophy -- based upon much of what he has posted
-- including posts in Google archive -- leans more towards fascist
than any other political theory.
Well, Slick, you came back to alt.california in search of another
pale, shuffling acolyte and you've found one. Of course, you had
your eye on Branson all along, didn't you? I've been expecting you
ever since Branson got on a roll.

Careful, Branson, if Slick follows her usual schedule, it'll be just
a short matter of time before you're on the receiving end of the
strap-on.

--
Jafo
Branson Hunter
2005-09-27 03:28:47 UTC
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Post by Jafo
Post by Branson Hunter
Post by h***@mac.com
Really, Jafo, what do you want to be when you grow up : another Bill
O'Reilly, Chickenhawk Supreme, Suppressor of Truth - even when it's
staring you in the face ?
This war is about profit. Obscene and indecent profit. To its
makers and supporters, nothing else matters.
Why would Jafonini care about that, or all the spent lives?
He's shown contempt for the Constitution and the democratic
process.
As much as you do when you whine about losing elections? :)
Post by Branson Hunter
Jafo's political philosophy -- based upon much of what he has posted
-- including posts in Google archive -- leans more towards fascist
than any other political theory.
Well, Slick, you came back to alt.california in search of another
pale, shuffling acolyte and you've found one. Of course, you had
your eye on Branson all along, didn't you? I've been expecting you
ever since Branson got on a roll.
Careful, Branson, if Slick follows her usual schedule, it'll be just
a short matter of time before you're on the receiving end of the
strap-on.
Seriously, pal -- what with your obsessive homo-erotric posts?

Branson
"Radlibs should be denied the right to vote..."

-- Jafo, July 25, 2005
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Jafo
2005-09-27 04:45:16 UTC
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Post by Branson Hunter
Post by Jafo
Post by Branson Hunter
Post by h***@mac.com
Really, Jafo, what do you want to be when you grow up : another Bill
O'Reilly, Chickenhawk Supreme, Suppressor of Truth - even when it's
staring you in the face ?
This war is about profit. Obscene and indecent profit. To its
makers and supporters, nothing else matters.
Why would Jafonini care about that, or all the spent lives?
He's shown contempt for the Constitution and the democratic
process.
As much as you do when you whine about losing elections? :)
Post by Branson Hunter
Jafo's political philosophy -- based upon much of what he has posted
-- including posts in Google archive -- leans more towards fascist
than any other political theory.
Well, Slick, you came back to alt.california in search of another
pale, shuffling acolyte and you've found one. Of course, you had
your eye on Branson all along, didn't you? I've been expecting you
ever since Branson got on a roll.
Careful, Branson, if Slick follows her usual schedule, it'll be just
a short matter of time before you're on the receiving end of the
strap-on.
Seriously, pal -- what with your obsessive homo-erotric posts?
I've read Slick's posts for nine years and Branson, you don't know
Slick.

--
Jafo
h***@mac.com
2005-09-27 09:17:42 UTC
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Post by Jafo
I've read Slick's posts for nine years and Branson, you don't know
Slick.
--
Jafo
I see, Jafo. So ... once upon a time, somebody had the audacity to
post stuff that you disagreed with on alt.california. As self
appointed Secretary Genital to said newsgroup, all of a sudden - poof !
- you morphed into the monstrous raging queer known everywhere to
astute readers as Dirty Uncle Jafo - a disgusting, creepy undead yet
somehow effeminately delicate, primping wraith with a bold twist of
Tourette's - for presumably Megan's Legal reasons, one who shall
forever remain childless ?

That's a whole lotta blame to place on anyone who isn't your parents or
in your case, the local parish priest, Jafo. But I understand how you
must feel, having chosen such inadequate role models, under W.

It's unlikely you'd take any responsibility whatsoever for your descent
into hell when W can't seem to fire even his most corrupt cabinet
mafio... members or better yet kill himself for generically similar
failings as yours, Jafo, theirs being albeit on a lethally widespread
and genocidally grander scale.

But I'll say one thing for W: no matter how big of an asshole he is -
and I'll defer to you on this, since you no doubt know more about his
anal diameter than I ever hope to, Jafo - he has never blamed me for
making him the piece of shit he is today. W's still got that little
bit of extra integrity over you, Old Fruit. Sorry I have to be the one
to break it to you, but there it is.

Fast-forward nearly a decade, although it seems much longer: See the
new, reproved Jafo with extra Stain de STD whitening power ! Now, buy
into almost any of DIrty Uncle Jafo's bullshit, get The Pervert free
... after male-in rebate coupon. Some restrictions of Free Speech
apply.

The 2005 Jafo GOP loves having the last word, long high-colonic walks
in the woods gazing into the eyes of the log-cabin Republican voter of
his dreams, war, election rigging, corruption, institutional racism and
farting. His dislikes include: women, period. Also travel, education
and anything French, unless administered by Jeff Gannon or The Pervert
without his dentures.

Dirty Uncle Jafo is now permanently steam-riveted by other men's
buttocks and comes with graphic descriptions on how to use them. The
old nineties male model Jafo only did these things part time. Well -
most of the time. Don't like the new one much either ? Don't blame
Jafo, it's all these people who had the nerve to disagree with him who
made him what he is today.

Got an old Jafo you haven't upgraded yet ? Hurry. Jafo expires
soon, or so one can only hope.

.
.
.
Branson Hunter
2005-09-27 21:33:34 UTC
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Post by Jafo
Post by Branson Hunter
Post by Jafo
Careful, Branson, if Slick follows her usual schedule, it'll be just
a short matter of time before you're on the receiving end of the
strap-on.
Seriously, pal -- what with your obsessive homo-erotric posts?
I've read Slick's posts for nine years and Branson, you don't know
Slick.
Classic denial; hc23hc made you post it. Really, Jafo.

Branson
Jafo
2005-09-28 01:26:33 UTC
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Post by Branson Hunter
[Omitted test, for focus]
Post by Jafo
Post by Branson Hunter
Post by Jafo
Careful, Branson, if Slick follows her usual schedule, it'll be just
a short matter of time before you're on the receiving end of the
strap-on.
Seriously, pal -- what with your obsessive homo-erotric posts?
I've read Slick's posts for nine years and Branson, you don't know
Slick.
Classic denial; hc23hc made you post it. Really, Jafo.
Don't ever say I didn't warn you, Branson.

--
Jafo
Branson Hunter
2005-09-28 02:44:18 UTC
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Post by Jafo
Post by Branson Hunter
[Omitted test, for focus]
Post by Jafo
Post by Branson Hunter
Post by Jafo
Careful, Branson, if Slick follows her usual schedule, it'll be just
a short matter of time before you're on the receiving end of the
strap-on.
Seriously, pal -- what with your obsessive homo-erotric posts?
I've read Slick's posts for nine years and Branson, you don't know
Slick.
Classic denial; hc23hc made you post it. Really, Jafo.
Don't ever say I didn't warn you, Branson.
Okay, I'm duly warned. Just keep the butt jokes to yourself
because I don't much appreciate them.

Branson

a***@hotmail.com
2005-09-26 19:49:15 UTC
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Post by Asmodeus
A stalinist rag. Boy, I'm sure going to take garbage from
those scubags seriously.
Ha. Ha.

You'd probably read the Guardian if your could understand some of the
big words they use.

'Stalinist rag'. What nonsense.
m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-27 04:05:29 UTC
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Post by Asmodeus
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Angry that rape's illegal? Or that sleeping with ten-
year-olds is?
Look up "straw man" then get back to us.
You already did an ad hominem.
Post by Asmodeus
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Because female circumcision has nothing to do with Iraq.
Oh, is that why you leftists defend it now, like you do
beating and torturing gays?
Um, the left doesn't defend either.
Post by Asmodeus
You fucking hypocrites. You have no principles at all.
Post by m***@yahoo.com
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1473788,00.html
A stalinist rag. Boy, I'm sure going to take garbage from
those scubags seriously.
"Stalinist rag"? You probably think Fox News is too
left-wing.
Jafo
2005-09-26 18:57:36 UTC
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Post by m***@yahoo.com
You didn't know knowingly leaking a CIA agent's name
was against the law? What do you think? Gee, I wonder
how the CIA's going to do its covert operations.
Probably with covert agents.

According to the 50 U.S.C. § 426(4) definition of “covert agent” to
mean one "who is serving outside the United States or has within the
last five years served outside the United States", there doesn't seem
to be any evidence that Valerie Plame was a covert agent at the time
the article was published.

Even Joe Wilson applies obvious spin when questioned on the issue...

www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/face_71705.pdf
Ms. JAN CRAWFORD GREENBURG (The Chicago Tribune): Ambassador,
I am just not clear on something. The law actually covers and
protects covert agents who served abroad within the last five
years. So if these conversations took place in 2003, does that
law protect your wife? Did she serve abroad as an agent since
1998?

Amb. WILSON: Well, I'm not a lawyer, first of all. But the
CIA would not have frivolously referred this to the Justice
Department if they did not believe a possible crime had been
committed. The possible crime has now been investigated for two
years by Mr. Fitzgerald and by the FBI. It's taken two years,
despite the fact that the president himself instructed all of
his employees to cooperate fully with the investigation.

Ms. GREENBURG: But...

Amb. WILSON: It's taken two years even though--it's taken two
years and it's been litigated up to the Supreme Court before we
finally are now getting some movement on this in this documentary
evidence that is now being produced.

Ms. GREENBURG: But had she served abroad in the time period
from...

Amb. WILSON: I would just tell you that she was covered according
to the CIA, and the CIA made the referral.

But *was* she covered "according to the CIA"? It seems unlikely,
given the lack of CIA concern as described by Bruce Sanford, a
Washington-based First Amendment attorney who helped draft the
law:

www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/14/sanford/
"... it is worth remembering that when Robert Novak, the
columnist, disclosed her identity in his column, he had
called the CIA to tell them he was going to do that, and
they didn't stop him. They did not do what the CIA normally
does in that situation if they want to protect or continue
to protect somebody's identity. ...

"They didn't call his syndicate. They didn't scream at him,
say you're going to endanger her life or [en]danger her career,
that sort of thing. They just sort of shrugged and said, 'Well,
I guess she won't be getting any more overseas assignments.'

"I don't think that's the kind of affirmative measures that the
agency needs to be taking in order to invoke the statute."

So again we arrive at the bottom line:
Was she or was she not stationed overseas in the five years prior
to having her name revealed in the press in 2003?

It seems like a simple enough question, and it's hard to see why
Joe Wilson seemed to think that only a lawyer could answer it.

Unless, of course, Ambassador Wilson "has no recollection" of his
wife's activities during the those five years... :)

--
Jafo
Asmodeus
2005-09-26 19:04:03 UTC
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Post by Jafo
It seems like a simple enough question, and it's hard to see why
Joe Wilson seemed to think that only a lawyer could answer it.
It depends on what you mean by "is."
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Stan de SD
2005-09-27 08:02:09 UTC
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Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Asmodeus
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Revealing a CIA agent's name is breaking the law.
Bullshit.
You didn't know knowingly leaking a CIA agent's name
was against the law? What do you think? Gee, I wonder
how the CIA's going to do its covert operations.
Post by Asmodeus
Post by m***@yahoo.com
http://makeashorterlink.com/?K3CE23CDB
More bullshit. Not one penny of US money was given to the
Taliban. Try real sources instead of feminist horseshit.
Angry that rape's illegal? Or that sleeping with ten-
year-olds is?
Unable to actually debate Asmo's position in this discussion, mib tilts at
windmills...
Stan de SD
2005-09-25 21:31:49 UTC
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Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Jafo
And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove committing
treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.
Two words: Valerie Plame.
You mean the woman who was not a covert agent and who Rove never mentioned
by name?
Jafo
2005-09-25 21:39:51 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Jafo
And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove committing
treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.
Two words: Valerie Plame.
You mean the woman who was not a covert agent and who Rove never
mentioned by name?
Yeah, that's the one.
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Jafo
a***@hotmail.com
2005-09-26 06:10:20 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Jafo
And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove committing
treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.
Two words: Valerie Plame.
You mean the woman who was not a covert agent and who Rove never mentioned
by name?
Mr. Fitzgerald will have something to say on the topic in the not too
distant future.
m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-26 06:58:45 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Jafo
And I can find more from the right. I can find Karl Rove committing
treason, for one.
Now all you have to do is prove it, and you can find him behind bars.
Two words: Valerie Plame.
You mean the woman who was not a covert agent and who Rove never mentioned
by name?
He never mentioned her 'by name', and Clinton never
'had sex with Lewinsky'.

Who, pray tell, would 'Mr. Wilson's wife' refer to?
The lady on Dennis the Menace?
Jafo
2005-09-26 13:36:09 UTC
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Post by m***@yahoo.com
Who, pray tell, would 'Mr. Wilson's wife' refer to?
The lady on Dennis the Menace?
No, the lady who spread herself across a page of "Vanity Fair".

--
Jafo
a***@hotmail.com
2005-09-26 16:03:39 UTC
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Post by Jafo
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Who, pray tell, would 'Mr. Wilson's wife' refer to?
The lady on Dennis the Menace?
No, the lady who spread herself across a page of "Vanity Fair".
--
Jafo
Evasion noted.

Photos appeared after the outing of Ms. Plame.

But you knew that.
Stan de SD
2005-09-23 15:06:25 UTC
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Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by e***@rock.com
1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES work...
Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Sources and cites?
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
BTW, your religion in particular tells you you can still
get pregnant when you abstain.
And my religion is what?
m***@yahoo.com
2005-09-23 20:51:13 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by e***@rock.com
1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES work...
Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Sources and cites?
Journal of the American Medical Association. The
title's "Resistance to Abstinence Only". It's
been so long since I've read it (It was published
over three years ago.), so I can't exactly cite
chapter and verse.

In addition to the AMA, every reputable education
association in the country has said something
similar.
Post by Stan de SD
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Hey, how about oral sex? Or anal sex? Those prevent
pregnancy too.
BTW, your religion in particular tells you you can still
get pregnant when you abstain.
And my religion is what?
I'm guessing a certain religion from the Levant
which has, at its center, a certain kid born to a
virgin.
Bob LeChevalier
2005-09-24 05:16:36 UTC
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Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Stan de SD
Post by e***@rock.com
1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES work...
Abstinence works. Abstinence EDUCATION, though, doesn't.
In fact, with abstinence-only education, you actually
find more teen pregnancies and STD outbreaks.
Sources and cites?
Journal of the American Medical Association. The
title's "Resistance to Abstinence Only". It's
been so long since I've read it (It was published
over three years ago.), so I can't exactly cite
chapter and verse.
Resistance to Abstinence Only
Brian Vastag
JAMA. 2002;287:2494.

You can apparently gain access to this article by registering as a
guest via:
http://0-jama.ama-assn.org.library.lanecc.edu/cgi/content/full/287/19/2494-c
Post by m***@yahoo.com
Post by Stan de SD
And my religion is what?
I'm guessing a certain religion from the Levant
which has, at its center, a certain kid born to a
virgin.
His religion is libertarianism. He worships the free market and the
destruction of government power except when it pertains to immigrants.

lojbab
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(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org
Miguel O'Pastel
2005-09-21 02:22:37 UTC
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"Stan de SD" <***@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:AnNXe.642$***@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
:
: <***@rock.com> wrote in message
: news:***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
: >
: > There are only 4 main methods of pregnancy prevention:
: >
: > 1. Condoms
: > 2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
: > 3. Pull-out method
: > 4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
:
: Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES work...
:
:
Inability to get laid is not the same as abstinence, Stain.
M
Stan de SD
2005-09-23 15:12:41 UTC
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Post by Miguel O'Pastel
: >
: >
: > 1. Condoms
: > 2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
: > 3. Pull-out method
: > 4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
: Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES work...
Inability to get laid is not the same as abstinence, Stain.
Inability to come up with an argument is not the same as having an alternate
point of view, MoP Boy...
Secret Squirrel
2005-09-27 23:21:27 UTC
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Post by e***@rock.com
1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES
work...
And do *you* practice abstinence?

Er, No?

And you're how old? 50? 60? 90? (You're using viagra, right?)

And yet you expect horny 14 year olds, pumped full of hormones
telling them to "do it, do it, do it" (and why would nature
be designing them that way if they weren't actually meant to
'do it'??) to abstain from something that mature flaccid you
can't, or won't.

Until you can walk the walk, don't talk the talk.

Some 'libertarian' you are.

Secret Squirrel
Cary Kittrell
2005-09-27 23:53:07 UTC
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Post by Stan de SD
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Post by e***@rock.com
1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
Now about abstinence? I know it's not very PC, but it DOES
work...
And do *you* practice abstinence?
Er, No?
And you're how old? 50? 60? 90? (You're using viagra, right?)
And yet you expect horny 14 year olds, pumped full of hormones
telling them to "do it, do it, do it" (and why would nature
be designing them that way if they weren't actually meant to
'do it'??) to abstain from something that mature flaccid you
can't, or won't.
Until you can walk the walk, don't talk the talk.
Some 'libertarian' you are.
A little-discussed technique which I have personally discovered
to be extremely effective is living several time zones
apart.

Of course, like any other method, you have to apply this one
with scrupulous consistency.


-- cary
Jim Spriggs
2005-09-25 21:26:58 UTC
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... Virgin girls,
ages 14 and up may wish to buy a vibrator or a dildo so that they can
"break themselves in" gently on their own.
Why that age in particular?
1. Condoms
2. Birth Control pills/Depraprovera/IUD/Progestin/Hormone
3. Pull-out method
4. Female barrier method such as diaphragm or sponge
3. can hardly be recommended. You forget anal/oral/manual sex.
Human beings become sexual by age 14.
Not true. It is well known that baby boys get erections when being
fed. Human beings (not surprisingly) are sexual straight out of the
womb.
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but you've done me a power of good.
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